David Hathaway


Interview with Sid Roth: Are visions for today? My guest was sentenced to life in prison in Czechoslovakia, but God gave him a vision showing the exact date of his early supernatural miracle.

Sid Roth: My guest, David Hathaway got that horrible diagnosis, the big “C”, cancer, cancer of the throat.

David Hathaway: Yes.

Sid: You had people pray for you. I know you have a lot of faith in God, but I understand nothing happened.

David: Well, they had diagnosed that I had cancer, but I had it in a difficult position. It was on the vocal cord. So, that meant an operation probably to remove my voice. So, the doctors wanted to operate and I said, "No," I said, "I believe in God. I believe in miracles." I said, "I will not have the operation." Well, people prayed, I prayed. This went on for three months, and I was not healed. Then two days before, finally, they said I have got to go for the operation. I was at home. Now, I was really concerned.

Sid: I am sure.

David: Because this is critical with cancer. I remember talking to God and saying, I believe that God was calling me to go to Russia. I said something very dangerous. Because I said to God, "O God, if you want me to stay in England, do not heal me." Now, I have never heard anybody talk like that to God before. I said, "Do not heal me."

Sid: And what happened?

David: But I said, "If you want me to go to Russia, then," I said, "I want a miracle and I want it now. I want you to take that cancer away." And in that instant, the cancer went.

Sid: How did you feel? How did you feel when cancer, losing you the ability to speak, and in an instant, you went from at cancer to being whole?

David: Well, I felt very strange, but I knew what I had to do. The next day, I had to go to the hospital because if this is a miracle then the doctors are going to testify. I remember the next day going to the hospital and they put instruments down my throat.

Sid: Oh, so you are telling me you did not know for sure you were healed or did you feel you were?

David: I knew I was healed.

Sid: Okay.

David: But I wanted them to tell me.

Sid: Yes.

David: So, I did not say a word to them. I did not go and say, "I am healed." I went as if they were going to operate on me. So, all right, they started to put the instruments down my throat. They pulled them out. They put them down the second time and they were beginning to get a bit angry with me. I did not know what the problem was. They pulled them out and they put them down the third time. And when they pulled them out, they were so angry.

Sid: Angry?

David: Yes.

Sid: Why?

David: Well, because they said to me, these were their exact words. This is on my medical records. They said, "Who did it?" I said, "What do you mean?" They said, "Who performed the operation?" They said, "We can see, we have looked three times, and we can see the scar. It looks as if someone cut the cancer out with a knife. Who did it?" And I said, "But I had no operation." I said, "God, last night, worked a miracle. The God that you do not believe in cut that cancer out as if with a knife."

Sid: And you know something, David? I know why God cut that cancer out. Because you are going to see a clip now from Ukraine and Siberia of what David did after God healed him. Right now. [Video playing] What you were watching, what miracles taking place. David Hathaway, what was going on?

David: Well, I will tell you. I said a few minutes ago, that God healed me of cancer. Now, I realized the power of God to work miracles. The second thing was, I said to God, "If you want me to go to Russia, then you have got to work a miracle in me." So, when God healed me of cancer, I had to go to Russia, and travel all of the Siberia and the Ukraine.

Sid: But in that video clip, tell me what miracles were going on.

David: There, you saw a girl who was born deaf. Suddenly, she can hear for the first time. There was an older man. He is jumping up and down. That man was dying of cancer. He had cancer in his legs, completely crippled, completely healed that very moment, He is jumping up and down and just completely delivered. And you see miracle after miracle like that.

Sid: When you were a child, you were dedicated to God by a great man of God, who prayed for you. I believe that you had something supernaturally happen. I am reminded of the movie, Roots. I do not know if he ever saw it. Where the father holds his baby up and dedicates the baby. Well, you were dedicated. Who is that man and what happened?

David: Yes, my father was a close friend and colleague of one of the greatest healing evangelists ever in Britain, a man called George Jeffreys. He came out of the Welsh Revival in 1904. I am going back a long time. So, consequently, when I was born, my father asked these healing evangelists to take me, his son, and pray over me and bless me. It is as if from that moment on, there was a supernatural power and I began to give my life to God, began to see a lot of miracles coming from that.

Sid: Well, in addition to miracles, you have also had some challenges in your life. In Siberia, the witch doctors came after you, what happened?

David: Well, what happened was this, I had been to a town right up in the north of Siberia because God called me to go and evangelize all over Siberia and Russia. In obedience to that, I took a big team; we went up to the far north. The first time I was there, I was in the football stadium. Crowds came and when I finished telling the people about Jesus, I began to minister to the sick. I cannot remember them all. I remember this one woman with crippled feet had come out from the hospital and was instantly healed. And she turned to me and said, "David, tomorrow, come with me into the hospital." So, the next day, I went into the hospital with her and went up to one of the wards up on the fourth floor, went in, spoke to the first man through an interpreter. I said, "What is the problem?" He said, "My back is broken." I put my hand on him. I said, "In the name of Jesus, I just break the power of the devil. I set you free, be healed." He got out of bed and walked. The second man had exactly the same; he had a broken back, got out of bed and walked. I came to the third one. I said, "What is the problem? Your back is not broken. "No,” he said, "I am blind." Now, he was a blind man on the far side of Siberia and I just reach out my hand to him, put it on him and said, "In the name of Jesus, I command your eyes to open," just like in the Bible. Instantly, his eyes came open. Now, we have got a test. If a person is blind and God has healed him, I take a Russian Bible from my interpreter; put it in a man's hands. I said, "Read it." That man took the Bible. He ran all over that hospital. He was shouting at the top of his voice. "I can see! I can see! Look, I am reading the Bible! I can see! I was blind and now I can see!" Now, I did not need to do anything, he went all over that hospital. The next evening the stadium was full, and in only two days, a quarter of a whole town came to know about Jesus.

Sid: But, what happened with those witch doctors?

David: Well, one year later, I went back.

Sid: I will tell you what, when we went back, we found out that God not only has power against the evil of sickness, but he has power against witch doctors.

   David is in Siberia. A quarter of the town came because of the miracles that took place. David, what happened to those witch doctors?

David: Well, the interesting thing was that after I left, an Orthodox priest who was connected with the Cossacks was a descendant of the Mongolians.

Sid: Right, the ones that killed so many Jews.

David: Yes. Now, they began to attack what I had done and they went to the people that were healed, saw all these miracles, and they began to curse God. This was the Orthodox priests. They began to curse God. So, one year later, I went back to that town. They were so determined to stop me. They put a curse on every auditorium, on the football stadium, so they forced us into the open. And so, what we did was, we began to speak, put all the equipment up right in the center of the town. And then they sent the witch doctors, and one man began to walk around and curse everything that we were doing. He said, “I curse you! I bring the power of the devil on you to destroy you and to stop you doing anything here.”

Sid: Were you fearful when you heard this?

David: No, angry.

Sid: Angry?

David: Very, very angry.

Sid: Why not fearful?

David: I am not afraid of them. My God is bigger than their gods.

Sid: Okay, what happened?

David: So, what happened was he said, "Look, this town is surrounded by hills." I am going to call a violent storm and it will come and destroy your meeting.” He said, “I have got power!” And he did it. We saw the storm clouds come. The clouds came over to this big open area where we were. The rain started to fall and then I became angry. So, I went to that man and I began to bind his power in the name of Jesus. I said, "My God is bigger than your devils!" I said, "Jesus, in your name, I have power and authority to break the power of this man. I command you." I began to speak to this man, this witch doctor, "I command you in the name of Jesus to go!" Well, suddenly, there was a flash of lightning that seemed to touch the man. He fell to the ground. He then ran down the street and the storm actually went against the wind and followed him down the street and went away. We had no rain and no problem. Now, that is an absolute miracle.

Sid: Now, I can see why you are a little fanatic over God.

David: Yes.

Sid: In fact, you are so fanatic that in the days of communism, you were passing out Bibles in Czechoslovakia and what happened?

David: Well, I was not just passing out Bibles in Czechoslovakia.

Sid: What were you doing?

David: What happened was this, I had a travel company, a tour agency, but I owned a fleet of tour buses. What I was doing was I had licenses to operate in all of Eastern Europe and Israel. And I saw the problems; I was going there into Eastern Europe when it was under communism. I am going back thirty years, and I saw that the people had no Bibles, no bread, no money, and no homes. They began to ask me for Bibles. Well, it is no use just taking six or ten Bibles, so what I did was, I converted my tour buses to carry two tons of Bibles.

Sid: That is not just a Bible, I understand.

David: Oh, no.

Sid: Two tons?

David: Two tons.

Sid: You are using that as an expression or really two tons?

David: No, it was at least two tons.

Sid: That is a lot of Bibles.

David: Yes. It nearly used to break the chassis of the bus. It was so much. We could carry twelve thousand New Testaments or four thousand or five thousand full Bibles, big Bibles. Now, you can understand the weight.

Sid: Yes.

David: We were doing this for years. We had licenses to go in. We had a lot of cheek, a lot of boldness. I mean, I remember going into Romania and it was in the winter and we wanted to smuggle Bibles in. It was difficult, so we had the full two tons on and got to the border and at the border they began to search the thing. That is what they used to do, keep us for several hours, pull the bus apart looking and asking us questions. They did not find anything. We got to Bucharest, which is the capital of Romania, we unloaded the Bibles. Then I went to see the Minister of Tourism and I began to argue with him, I said, "Look," I said, "I am a tour operator. If you want me to bring tourists here, why do you stop my buses for three hours at the border?" I said, "I refuse to bring tourists in if you stop them and you do this!” And he apologized. He said, "I am so sorry." He said, "We want the tourists. I will make arrangements. Your busses will never be stopped and never searched again at the border." So, that gave me the freedom to smuggle Bibles in.

Sid: But, obviously, you got caught. What happened?

David: Well, what we set out was the most sophisticated operation of all time. We were doing this for years. I was doing this for about seven or eight years. Then we were on the way with Bibles. We had five thousand Bibles for Russia, but we were going through Czechoslovakia. When we came to the border, the inevitable happened. They found them. So, what they did was, they almost tore the bus apart. Eventually, they found them. So, they let the bus and the tourists go, but they took me away. It is quite interesting because before I left the border, they made me wait for thirty-six hours. They brought up television cameras, filmed me with the Bibles to show the propaganda on that television. And all the people who were waiting for the Bibles came to me because they saw me on television. I was known all over the East block because I was shown on television smuggling the Bibles. So, they then put me in prison. Now, they were very angry with me for two reasons. The first was that they discovered the size of my operation. That I was operating legally with licenses and taking the Bibles in. We had the biggest operation ever known to do this. And we worked with a big network of believers all over Eastern Europe. So, they kept me. They interrogated me for four months to find the names and addresses of the believers. Now, what they said was the sentence for Bible smuggling was five years. But then, I did not stop preaching. I was preaching while I was in the prison and telling everybody about Jesus. Everybody in this communist prison knew I was in for smuggling Bibles, so they would all ask me about it. They said, “Why do you do such a stupid thing?” I said, "This book is life! This book is real!"

Sid: So, what did they do while you were talking about Jesus in prison?

David: They said, "That was a serious offense." They quoted the law. They said, "That is another five years in prison." So, that would have made ten years.

Sid: Ten years.

David: But then, they said, "Look, we are not going to let you out of this prison alive." They became so angry with me.

Sid: How do you like that, a life sentence in prison? He is so fanatic over Jesus. He is going to spend his life in prison. But a great miracle happened in that place. So, you are in prison now for life. What happens?

David: Well, the thing was, they tried to make it official. So, they brought me before an official court in front of the British ambassador. My wife was invited, some of my family, and so on. So, what they began to accuse me of the most heinous crimes, and they said I was so dangerous. I mean, they used to handcuff me. I was such a dangerous person to them. And so, they found me guilty. They sentenced me. I came back from the courtroom. I was lying on the floor on the prison cell. Now, I was desperately unhappy. But then, two nights after my sentence, I had the most amazing dream.

Sid: What was that?

David: Well, in the night, I saw myself out of the prison, back home in London, where I was born, and in the largest auditorium in London, telling everybody a story about a miracle.

Sid: So, obviously, if that is true, you are not going to be there rotting for the rest of your life.

David: Right. Now, I knew that it was Easter because the connection with the particular time in that auditorium. So, I began to ask God for a miracle, because you see, I believe the Bible and I believe that the two evangelists in the Bible were in prison. And what happened at midnight, they were praising God and a miracle happened, God sent an earthquake and got them out. So, I am saying, "O God, you are going to work. Send an earthquake, work a miracle, and get me out of this prison." But remember, I was in a communist prison. God showed me, I began to pray, God showed me the exact day that I would be out of that prison for Easter, that I would be home. I would be in this largest auditorium in London. Now, when God showed me that, I then turn around to God, I said, "Look here. If you are going to work this miracle, I believe it; I believe you are going to do it. My birthday comes four days before Easter. I want you to work a bigger miracle and send me home on my birthday."

Sid: Okay. So, what happened, David?

David: What happened was this, the day before my birthday; one of the guards came to me. He said, "Hathaway, what are you talking about? Why are you telling the other prisoners you are going home?" I said, "Well, because God is going to work a miracle. I am getting out of the prison. And I want everybody to know this is You, this is God working a miracle.” The guard said, "It is impossible!" He said, "Look at the walls, they are twenty feet high. Look at the machine guns, the automatic rifles all around there, the barbed wire and everything." He said, "It is impossible!" I went back to the bench where I was working. I was in the labor camp. Fifteen minutes later, that same officer came running back. He said, "Hathaway, I got a telephone call from the government in Prague, you are to be released immediately!" Now, they did not release me that day. But first thing the next morning, they took me out of the prison in a car and took me to the airport and put me on an airplane. When I got on the airplane, I found the British Prime Minister. This was Harold Wilson. And actually, Harold Wilson had flown all the way from England to Czechoslovakia to argue for my release from the prison.

Sid: David Hathaway, are you special? Why would God do that for you? Why would God do that for you? They have your Prime Minister on a plane that argued for your release from a communist prison. You were scheduled to rot in that prison for the rest of your life.

David: I will tell you why. This changed my life. I have already had the miracle of healing from cancer. That is why I got into prison. Now, look what has happened, Sid. Now, I have had another miracle. This shows that God is real! There is something dramatic. There is something powerful about this God! He can do something and if I am going to go into Russia, I want to believe in this kind of a God. A God that works the supernatural and miracles. I will tell you, when I got out of that prison and got home, two things happened. The first thing I found out, it was my birthday. That is exactly what God had said. This miracle was broadcast on nationwide television, not only there, but all over the world. It was the headlines in the newspapers and as a result of that, I was asked to speak in the largest auditorium to ten thousand people in London and tell them what had happened.

Sid: Okay. I am going to get a lot of people unhappy if you do not look at that camera and pray very quickly for miracles to break out, the miracles they need right now.

David: Well, I believe in a God of miracles and I am going to pray, "O God, we thank you for the power that you demonstrated in my life. You changed my life. You healed that cancer. You cut it out with a knife. You came in obedience to your word. You got me out of that prison by a miracle. Now, O God, I just reach out my hand to those people out there who are watching and listening and I asked you for miracles, the most powerful miracles, to demonstrate here in America and around the world, that you are a God that can heal every sickness. And I speak to that sickness and I command that every pain, every disease, every sickness will come out of these people in the name of Jesus! For those that are sick, put your hand where the sickness is and just command it, in the name of the God of the Bible, the God of America, I command my sickness to come out of your body, in Jesus’ name. Now, O God, I ask you to work demonstrative, I ask you to work creative miracles in order to show America today, America needs this God. Amen.

David's Hearing His Voice Testimony

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